Moar EVE drama

Why does EVE bring out all the worst in people?

We had this guy in corp who didn't like management. So he leaves corp, and as a parting gift kills and pods the one guy who at all costs dislikes PVP. So much so that he logs and stays off during wars.

That was such a chicken thing to do Dani, wasn't it? What had Beka done to you Dani? You feel better destroying 700m ISKies for someone not involved in your personal problems?

So instead of agressing someone who would give you a fight. You are so fail as to target the one guy who officially wants nothing at all to do with pvp and such things. And doesn't suspect someone in his own corp to be such a shithead.

Fucking pathetic is what it is ... honest.
Let me the fuck out of the wormhole and I'll pod your sorry ass.
/me hates baby sitting wormholes at the moment.
/me hates Concord even more - the fuckturd would just go sit in safe space =(

Wormhole pirates

My corp moved to a class 5 wormhole a few weeks ago. After having lived in a dried up class 3 patience ran out of the powers that be, and the move was made. A few mining ops and some pew situations (I managed to lose a Cane to a Proteus) later real bad shit happened.

3 days ago I log on to find a discussion about the traffic in the hole. Apparently no one has done anything to stop it, but there was industrials and various combat ships around. A tower went up. And then - shit happened -.

Not one, but two Dreadnoughts were on scan. Then as fast as they could register the fact, the pos was attacked. Not much else to do but to negotiate - and a horrible sum of ISKies changed hands.

Now for 1+ days I've been hauling crap and fail fitted ships out of the hole. The more hilarious one was a BS with long range weapons, a scan booster and .... stabs .... wtf. Or a BC with short range guns and stabs (risk of hitting your own ship there...).

Oh well .... dunno what I'm going to do now. Corp is talking about restructuring, refilling corp wallet. I hate missions - and don't mine ...

Report from 0.0 - part 2

Wanted to post this as a comment, but it was too large...
This is EVE in a nutshell. Anything goes in this game, and anything can and will happen. On a daily basis... It's a bit sad though. When my benefactor joined Nightmare and Undivided (the alliance) Nightmare was 130+ pilots and Undivided quite a few corps. Now Nightmare is down to 50 and Undivided has 6 corps, plus the shadow blue killing alt corp I guess.

[ 2010.01.29 05:07:08 ] Ruxandra > o/
[ 2010.01.29 05:07:24 ] Heofz > hows it going
[ 2010.01.29 05:07:25 ] Ruxandra > What can I do for you?
[ 2010.01.29 05:07:30 ] Ruxandra > Not bad.
[ 2010.01.29 05:07:52 ] Heofz > just wanted to ask u something if thats ok
[ 2010.01.29 05:08:02 ] Ruxandra > Sure.
[ 2010.01.29 05:08:42 ] Heofz > did dave pay you to do what you did?
[ 2010.01.29 05:08:53 ] Ruxandra > Nope.
[ 2010.01.29 05:09:04 ] Heofz > not the corp thieving thing
[ 2010.01.29 05:09:11 ] Heofz > but before that
[ 2010.01.29 05:09:31 ] Ruxandra > Yeah, I know what you were asking - it would be stupid for him to pay me to rob someone elses corp.
[ 2010.01.29 05:09:35 ] Ruxandra > But no, Dave didn't pay me.
[ 2010.01.29 05:09:38 ] Ruxandra > An external party did.
[ 2010.01.29 05:09:53 ] Heofz > lol
[ 2010.01.29 05:09:56 ] Heofz > may i ask who? :)
[ 2010.01.29 05:10:10 ] Ruxandra > The confidentiality of my clients is a part of our agreement.
[ 2010.01.29 05:10:19 ] Ruxandra > I do have a price, though.
[ 2010.01.29 05:10:30 ] Ruxandra > If you were to pay me some isk, I could disclose their identity.
[ 2010.01.29 05:10:37 ] Heofz > how much :)
[ 2010.01.29 05:10:44 ] Ruxandra > How much is it worth?
[ 2010.01.29 05:10:52 ] Heofz > not a great deal tbh
[ 2010.01.29 05:10:55 ] Heofz > i'm just curious
[ 2010.01.29 05:10:55 ] Ruxandra > I could give you information to attack them with, as well.
[ 2010.01.29 05:11:04 ] Ruxandra > I will tell you their name for 10 million isk.
[ 2010.01.29 05:11:30 ] Ruxandra > I'll also include some interesting information.
[ 2010.01.29 05:11:38 ] Ruxandra > That may help you in returning the "favor"
[ 2010.01.29 05:11:49 ] Heofz > 5 million now, 5 million after
[ 2010.01.29 05:11:59 ] Ruxandra > It's 10 million, I'm being fair, man.
[ 2010.01.29 05:12:03 ] Ruxandra > I could've asked you for 100.
[ 2010.01.29 05:12:13 ] Heofz > but how can i trust u lol
[ 2010.01.29 05:12:23 ] Ruxandra > Well, if I lied to you, you go kill ten rats.
[ 2010.01.29 05:12:27 ] Heofz > how do i know ur not gonna just take the 10 mil and laugh
[ 2010.01.29 05:12:30 ] Ruxandra > Thats just stupid to rip you off for 10 million isk.
[ 2010.01.29 05:12:34 ] Heofz > true
[ 2010.01.29 05:12:51 ] Heofz > ok what the hell :)
[ 2010.01.29 05:12:52 ] Ruxandra > Considering I could gain future amounts for more isk, if you like what I tell you.
[ 2010.01.29 05:13:09 ] Heofz > 10 mil for a name and that extra info?
[ 2010.01.29 05:13:16 ] Ruxandra > Yes.
[ 2010.01.29 05:13:24 ] Ruxandra > I will give you their name and their information.
[ 2010.01.29 05:13:40 ] Heofz > lol ok
[ 2010.01.29 05:14:00 ] Heofz > check ur wallet :)
[ 2010.01.29 05:14:06 ] Ruxandra > Okay.
[ 2010.01.29 05:14:39 ] Ruxandra > First, you didn't get this from me.
[ 2010.01.29 05:14:44 ] Ruxandra > Or I won't give you more info.
[ 2010.01.29 05:14:45 ] Ruxandra > Okayt?
[ 2010.01.29 05:14:53 ] Heofz > of course
[ 2010.01.29 05:15:13 ] Ruxandra > I was hired by Riley. I don't know if it was Dave on her account. However, she was the person who initially contacted me.
[ 2010.01.29 05:15:25 ] Ruxandra > The job was easy because of my past relations with Lost Packet.
[ 2010.01.29 05:15:47 ] Ruxandra > After that, Dave became the contact, his intentions were to force your corps from the alliance, give him the edge with ATLAS, and reform.
[ 2010.01.29 05:16:15 ] Heofz > i suspected as much, lol
[ 2010.01.29 05:16:38 ] Ruxandra > He couldn't make such attempts without first corrupting the leadership infrastructure and getting people on his side.
[ 2010.01.29 05:17:25 ] Heofz > yeah
[ 2010.01.29 05:17:31 ] Ruxandra > He had talked very boldly about how Viod Hawk was a fool, etc. He would regularly bash him in private conversations with me.
[ 2010.01.29 05:17:40 ] Heofz > by establishing himself as the leader right?
[ 2010.01.29 05:17:54 ] Ruxandra > Well, he didn't have control of the Executor corp.
[ 2010.01.29 05:17:56 ] Ruxandra > Packet did.
[ 2010.01.29 05:18:07 ] Ruxandra > So, if he attempted to take control, Packet would just kick him - which packet did.
[ 2010.01.29 05:18:11 ] Ruxandra > However, packet did it too late.
[ 2010.01.29 05:18:19 ] Ruxandra > After people were already prepared to "jump ship."
[ 2010.01.29 05:18:24 ] Heofz > yeah
[ 2010.01.29 05:18:51 ] Heofz > i cant believe it lol
[ 2010.01.29 05:18:55 ] Heofz > i worked all this out myself
[ 2010.01.29 05:19:02 ] Heofz > well, not myself
[ 2010.01.29 05:19:08 ] Heofz > but i put the pieces together
[ 2010.01.29 05:19:17 ] Heofz > and you've confirmed all my suspicions
[ 2010.01.29 05:19:29 ] Ruxandra > The funny part is - once GoonSwarm reinforces NC and makes a push into Insmother - no one is going to take Davet517s check.
[ 2010.01.29 05:19:42 ] Ruxandra > He's going to lose the space anyway.
[ 2010.01.29 05:20:03 ] Heofz > lol
[ 2010.01.29 05:20:07 ] Heofz > he spent billions
[ 2010.01.29 05:20:09 ] Heofz > xD
[ 2010.01.29 05:20:15 ] Ruxandra > He purchases isk illegally, also.
[ 2010.01.29 05:20:18 ] Ruxandra > That is true.
[ 2010.01.29 05:20:28 ] Heofz > how did you know about that?
[ 2010.01.29 05:20:36 ] Ruxandra > Bobby Atlas was also given a "bonus check".
[ 2010.01.29 05:20:45 ] Ruxandra > To let him have the space.
[ 2010.01.29 05:21:20 ] Ruxandra > I knew he purchased isk for a while.
[ 2010.01.29 05:21:49 ] Ruxandra > It's obvious. He even boasted about it in Mostly Harmless.
[ 2010.01.29 05:21:55 ] Ruxandra > To people he trusted, anyway.
[ 2010.01.29 05:26:54 ] Heofz > lol damn
[ 2010.01.29 05:27:21 ] Heofz > so you knew packet for a long time?
[ 2010.01.29 05:29:25 ] Heofz > dave must've paid you a lot to sever ties with him D:
[ 2010.01.29 05:29:59 ] Ruxandra > I actually was never "friends" with packet. I had just conveniently been in his corp before. I met him through Marcus Malos.
[ 2010.01.29 05:30:22 ] Ruxandra > It was easy to get in, especially considering he had a huge need for a US TimeZone Director.
[ 2010.01.29 05:30:32 ] Ruxandra > I was the one close enough to being trust worthy.
[ 2010.01.29 05:41:17 ] Heofz > i have to say
[ 2010.01.29 05:41:28 ] Heofz > the whole operation was a beautiful piece of work
[ 2010.01.29 05:41:55 ] Ruxandra > It was alright. It would've come out better if Packet wouldn't have kicked him so soon, there was a larger plan at play.
[ 2010.01.29 05:42:01 ] Ruxandra > What occured was a contingency plan.
[ 2010.01.29 05:42:38 ] Heofz > larger plan? :o
[ 2010.01.29 05:42:47 ] Ruxandra > Yes, there was a larger plan.
[ 2010.01.29 05:42:51 ] Heofz > i cant imagine him getting a better result tho
[ 2010.01.29 05:42:55 ] Ruxandra > The "true" plan.
[ 2010.01.29 05:42:56 ] Heofz > he got the whole pocket
[ 2010.01.29 05:43:02 ] Heofz > all to himself
[ 2010.01.29 05:43:16 ] Ruxandra > Yes.
[ 2010.01.29 05:43:17 ] Heofz > unless he's referring to the destruction of everyone else too
[ 2010.01.29 05:43:38 ] Ruxandra > It was along those lines. It was more epic than what occured.
[ 2010.01.29 05:44:04 ] Ruxandra > It probably would've resulted in multiple people not only leaving BADWOLF and Nightmare Inc, but also, quitting the game.
[ 2010.01.29 05:44:33 ] Heofz > i think i know what you're talking about
[ 2010.01.29 05:44:48 ] Heofz > he wanted to put everything in a holding corp
[ 2010.01.29 05:45:32 ] Ruxandra > No, it was more diverse than that.
[ 2010.01.29 05:45:38 ] Ruxandra > If I told you, you'd be surprised.
[ 2010.01.29 05:46:03 ] Heofz > lol is that so
[ 2010.01.29 05:46:12 ] Ruxandra > Yeah, you'd be shocked, maybe.
[ 2010.01.29 05:46:22 ] Heofz > i dunno, eve is full of surprises :P
[ 2010.01.29 05:46:25 ] Ruxandra > Just to find out what was going on internally in your corp, not just the alliance.
[ 2010.01.29 05:46:45 ] Heofz > in badwolf eh
[ 2010.01.29 05:46:51 ] Ruxandra > In every corp.
[ 2010.01.29 05:47:16 ] Heofz > guess... isk farming?
[ 2010.01.29 05:47:19 ] Ruxandra > Aside of Dave's, which wasn't necessary.
[ 2010.01.29 05:47:20 ] Ruxandra > No.
[ 2010.01.29 05:47:25 ] Heofz > damn
[ 2010.01.29 05:47:27 ] Ruxandra > I can tell you, for another 10m.
[ 2010.01.29 05:47:42 ] Heofz > hmm okie dokie
[ 2010.01.29 05:47:56 ] Ruxandra > It would greatly improve your corps ability to survive at this point.
[ 2010.01.29 05:48:10 ] Heofz > paid :)
[ 2010.01.29 05:48:33 ] Ruxandra > I was told to make contact with a director in each corp.
[ 2010.01.29 05:48:50 ] Ruxandra > I was supposed to determine which seemed like they'd be easiest to follow-the-lead.
[ 2010.01.29 05:49:03 ] Ruxandra > I had to find someone not devoted to the corps they were in, but with proper roles.
[ 2010.01.29 05:49:14 ] Ruxandra > Money talks and BS walks.
[ 2010.01.29 05:49:20 ] Heofz > so i hear
[ 2010.01.29 05:49:30 ] Ruxandra > Within your corp, as well as, other corps - save for Malice inc. They came into the game too late.
[ 2010.01.29 05:49:42 ] Ruxandra > There was a mole, if you will.
[ 2010.01.29 05:49:54 ] Ruxandra > A person prepared to not only kick multiple people from nightmare, like I had.
[ 2010.01.29 05:50:04 ] Ruxandra > But simultaneously, everyone they possibly could from each corp.
[ 2010.01.29 05:50:14 ] Ruxandra > Then drain the wallets, the corp hangars, and get out of dodge.
[ 2010.01.29 05:50:18 ] Ruxandra > They were paid a fee by Dave.
[ 2010.01.29 05:50:25 ] Ruxandra > Not nearly as much as my fee.
[ 2010.01.29 05:51:06 ] Heofz > interseting
[ 2010.01.29 05:51:08 ] Ruxandra > On the night that Packet ejected Raata Invicti from the alliance, it was too early.
[ 2010.01.29 05:51:17 ] Ruxandra > I needed about two more days to have them all simultaneously on.
[ 2010.01.29 05:51:56 ] Ruxandra > But rather than have them all on simultaneously, because of what packet did - sooner than expected, I pretended to be on board with the TCU killing thing.
[ 2010.01.29 05:51:59 ] Ruxandra > I even was on the kill mail.
[ 2010.01.29 05:52:13 ] Ruxandra > This would distract any and all attention from me, while I did what I had to do - when Packet slept.
[ 2010.01.29 05:52:35 ] Heofz > yeah i noticed that
[ 2010.01.29 05:52:36 ] Ruxandra > Since I was the last possible person to undertake what was supposed to be done - and get my final check.
[ 2010.01.29 05:53:16 ] Ruxandra > The director in your corp that was supposed to be on board with us was immediately severed from our op.
[ 2010.01.29 05:53:43 ] Ruxandra > We offered to keep his name a secret in exchange for him to not disclose our plan, until we finished what we needed to do, tell ATLAS the story - send logs, etc.
[ 2010.01.29 05:54:10 ] Ruxandra > He's still in your corp right now.
[ 2010.01.29 05:54:28 ] Heofz > i see
[ 2010.01.29 05:54:42 ] Ruxandra > He's probably not a threat, though.
[ 2010.01.29 05:54:50 ] Ruxandra > Just a guy who was given an opportunity to make some isk.
[ 2010.01.29 05:57:32 ] Heofz > hmm
[ 2010.01.29 05:57:40 ] Heofz > so what do you recommend i should do?
[ 2010.01.29 05:58:30 ] Ruxandra > Should do about what?
[ 2010.01.29 05:58:50 ] Heofz > well
[ 2010.01.29 05:59:03 ] Heofz > how much of a liability is this director
[ 2010.01.29 05:59:34 ] Ruxandra > I don't know, that's really how you perceive it.
[ 2010.01.29 05:59:56 ] Ruxandra > Is it safe to keep him in the corp, assuming, you would've done the same, if a number that large was proposed to you?
[ 2010.01.29 06:00:00 ] Ruxandra > He was offered a lot of isk.
[ 2010.01.29 06:00:13 ] Ruxandra > Not just chump change.
[ 2010.01.29 06:00:17 ] Ruxandra > A considerable amount.
[ 2010.01.29 06:00:21 ] Heofz > is there any way you'll give his name?
[ 2010.01.29 06:00:27 ] Heofz > considering this is just between us
[ 2010.01.29 06:00:39 ] Ruxandra > You can disclose that he's in your corp, that's up to you.
[ 2010.01.29 06:00:47 ] Ruxandra > I don't care if you keep it secret.
[ 2010.01.29 06:01:11 ] Ruxandra > But as for the name, I'm really tied on that.
[ 2010.01.29 06:01:31 ] Heofz > could i just have something vague then
[ 2010.01.29 06:01:34 ] Heofz > like a timezone or something
[ 2010.01.29 06:01:44 ] Ruxandra > I mean, for a fee, I'd give his name out - but. . . I don't really see us coming to an agreement.
[ 2010.01.29 06:01:51 ] Ruxandra > Well, the lot of your corp is US Tz. lol.
[ 2010.01.29 06:01:56 ] Ruxandra > Oh, you mean distinctly.
[ 2010.01.29 06:02:41 ] Heofz > heh
[ 2010.01.29 06:02:55 ] Heofz > so he's US tz
[ 2010.01.29 06:03:10 ] Ruxandra > Yes.
[ 2010.01.29 06:04:40 ] Heofz > so i take it your transaction between dave and yourself is complete
[ 2010.01.29 06:04:57 ] Heofz > so you no longer have any ties with him
[ 2010.01.29 06:05:05 ] Heofz > ?
[ 2010.01.29 06:05:34 ] Heofz > unless i misunderstood when you said you received your final payment
[ 2010.01.29 06:05:58 ] Ruxandra > I can always be rehired. But it would be very difficult at this point, my voice is compromised.
[ 2010.01.29 06:06:16 ] Ruxandra > But yes, I have been paid in full?
[ 2010.01.29 06:06:20 ] Ruxandra > You could say.
[ 2010.01.29 06:06:55 ] Heofz > so going back to the first bit of info for a second
[ 2010.01.29 06:07:06 ] Ruxandra > Yeah.
[ 2010.01.29 06:07:18 ] Heofz > dave buys isk illegally
[ 2010.01.29 06:07:28 ] Ruxandra > Which you couldn't prove.
[ 2010.01.29 06:07:30 ] Ruxandra > But yes, he does.
[ 2010.01.29 06:07:32 ] Heofz > of course
[ 2010.01.29 06:07:43 ] Heofz > but is it such that isk will *never* be a problem for him
[ 2010.01.29 06:07:43 ] Ruxandra > He buys it from an exclusive company, he claimed.
[ 2010.01.29 06:07:52 ] Ruxandra > Which is private and not known publicly by too many people.
[ 2010.01.29 06:08:00 ] Heofz > as in, he has a seemingly unlimited supply of isk
[ 2010.01.29 06:08:04 ] Ruxandra > No, isk could be a problem for him.
[ 2010.01.29 06:08:13 ] Ruxandra > It would depend on how much he would pour into the game.
[ 2010.01.29 06:08:35 ] Ruxandra > He's probably worth around 60 - 70 billion at any given time.
[ 2010.01.29 06:08:40 ] Ruxandra > Assets redacted, just liquid.
[ 2010.01.29 06:08:58 ] Heofz > i see
[ 2010.01.29 06:13:56 ] Ruxandra > He's not nearly the richest player in the game nor even close - he's up there, though.
[ 2010.01.29 06:14:24 ] Heofz > i always knew something was up with him lol
[ 2010.01.29 06:14:50 ] Heofz > smells like a goon to me
[ 2010.01.29 06:15:02 ] Ruxandra > Not quite, he's actually an idiot.
[ 2010.01.29 06:15:12 ] Ruxandra > Mostly Harmless is as far as he goes.
[ 2010.01.29 06:15:16 ] Ruxandra > He has limited PVP experience.
[ 2010.01.29 06:15:19 ] Ruxandra > The guy is a carebear.
[ 2010.01.29 06:15:22 ] Heofz > yeah i noticed
[ 2010.01.29 06:15:38 ] Heofz > he got killed by a pos in a stealth bomber not too long ago
[ 2010.01.29 06:15:48 ] Heofz > one of ours :)
[ 2010.01.29 06:16:02 ] Heofz > with nobody else around
[ 2010.01.29 06:16:09 ] Ruxandra > That's funny.
[ 2010.01.29 06:17:09 ] Heofz > gotta love it
[ 2010.01.29 06:17:31 ] Heofz > i knew there was cloak & dagger stuff going on in eve
[ 2010.01.29 06:17:44 ] Heofz > but i never thought it went to such depths
[ 2010.01.29 06:17:47 ] Ruxandra > Oh, this stuff is new to you?
[ 2010.01.29 06:17:56 ] Heofz > i'm a 4 month old player :)
[ 2010.01.29 06:18:10 ] Heofz > but like many people tell you i learn things quickly
[ 2010.01.29 06:18:19 ] Ruxandra > http://eve.klaki.net/heist/
[ 2010.01.29 06:18:27 ] Ruxandra > That is much more impressive than this little op.
[ 2010.01.29 06:18:35 ] Ruxandra > That was a year long expedition.
[ 2010.01.29 06:18:44 ] Heofz > oh yeah i knew stuff like that happened
[ 2010.01.29 06:18:53 ] Heofz > but i never thought i would be involved in it
[ 2010.01.29 06:19:05 ] Heofz > let alone uncover part of an op
[ 2010.01.29 06:19:14 ] Heofz > almost singlehandedly
[ 2010.01.29 06:19:19 ] Heofz > sheerly out of curiousity
[ 2010.01.29 06:19:58 ] Ruxandra > Yeah, I've been doing things like this - for quite a while.